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Dressed to get Killed
Last post 05-15-2008, 10:45 PM by p-t-max. 35 replies.
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Dead Eye Tom
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Re: Dressed to get Killed
I posted this yesterday in Holster Talk, but it sound more like it belongs here. These pants look pretty good. Mabey you can get her to compromise.
I use about 50% IWB carry and when I'm not wearing jeans I like a Docker style pants made by Hagger. They have something they call a "comfort fit waist band". Basically they have a little elastic panel at 3:00 and 9:00 that allows for about an inch or so of expansion. Perfect for CCW, but still fit nicely when I'm not armed, work, mall etc.
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05-14-2008, 6:56 AM |
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Americangirl01
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Re: Dressed to get Killed
MED:
<snip>..... I'd rather be baggy and carry than styling and gunless...
+1 on that.......
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein
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05-14-2008, 6:59 AM |
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Jes
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Re: Dressed to get Killed
Ankle holster?? Keltec P3AT or P32 in a "Wallet" rig in your back pocket??
If all else fails stand up to your wife and tell her either since your pants are too tight she has to carry a 1911 in her purse.
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05-14-2008, 7:51 AM |
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MikLaw
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Re: Dressed to get Killed
I've been eyeing the Dockers myself and the local goodwill shops have plenty of them on their racks in like new condition in lite & dark Khaki, as well as green, starting at $3.00 a pair. They are comfortable and look good and even for the price new, which is reasonable, what's to lose.
I'll keep my guns, freedom and money. You keep the *change*.
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05-14-2008, 8:06 AM |
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p-t-max
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Re: Dressed to get Killed
If you're going to carry, you have to dress around the gun. Either buy your jeans an inch or two bigger, or go with the Dockers or Haggers or whatever works. The last pair of slacks I bought I got at the Big & Tall section. Unfortunately, I'm more "Big" than "Tall". These pants have a 2 or 3 inch elastic panel on each hip, providing room to grow. ![Yes [Y]](/emoticons/emotion-21.gif)
IMO, ankle carry isn't a good primary carry option because there are too many limitations. It's hard to draw from the ankle quickly, and only if you're crouching, kneeling or sitting. Standing, walking, or running, you can't get to your gun. I have a really good ankle holster in the closet that never gets worn any more because I tried it for a time, but after a while it just didn't make sense.
Don't be a slave to fashion. If you're going to carry you have to elevate your behavior, your level of awareness, and alter your style. Dress around the gun.
One man's opinion. YMMV.
p-t-max I'm no expert, I'm just, well---opinionated! http://blog648.blogspot.com/
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05-14-2008, 8:38 AM |
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Niteranger68
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Re: Dressed to get Killed
Have you tried to OWB carry with your shirt out, or are the pants even too tight for an external holster?
BTW, the thread title is spot on!
Niteranger68 Bersa Thunder 9UC-SS S&W 642 Springfield XD40 Beretta PX4 9mm Mossberg 500 Tactical 12 Ga Ruger 10/22 SS Titan Tiger .38 Cal NRA/GOA "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."
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05-14-2008, 10:44 AM |
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gb_in_tx
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Re: Dressed to get Killed
I've got some of those Haggar slacks that have the elastic waistbands -- I like them. With them, I don't have to buy them an inch bigger, instead I can buy them to fit and they'll work when carrying as well.
For those of us who wear jeans most of the time, I found that Bass Pro Shops store brand -- RedHead, makes what they call "Tournament Jeans", that are primarily intended for fishing. They also have elastic in the waistbands. I've got several pairs of them, and those have become my favorite jeans. Like the Haggar slacks, I can buy them to fit.
One thing about trying on non-stretch waistband slacks & jeans -- how do you handle getting a proper, dressing room fit that accomodates your carry gun? I suppose that you'd have to do all your own checking for fit in front of a mirror, hoping that there is one in the dressing room itself. Usually, that isn't the case -- SWMBO and/or the tailor usually do the checking for fit, and there often isn't a mirror in the changing room itself.
Especially -- how do you do it when you are having a suit tailored? Unless, that is, you know your tailor well enough to know that he/she won't freak when you are trying on the slacks with your carry gun in the waistband. Personally, I don't know any tailors well enough for that. Come to think of it, I don't know ANY tailors in this area. How DO you walk into a place like the Men's Wearhouse and buy a suit -- tailored, of course -- that will accomodate your carry piece? The only thing I can see doing is just get the suit tailored normally and then either use a shoulder holster (which I don't have) or just pocket carry. At least dress slacks have deep enough pockets to accomodate pocket carry. Maybe the answer is to wear your holster to the mens wear store, empty. The tailor may still freak, but at least you aren't in voilation of the law (your locale may differ).
I'm one and the same as gb_in_ga, so add a bit over 900 to my post count...
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05-14-2008, 11:16 AM |
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Mason
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Re: Dressed to get Killed
I would just tell the tailor in a proper manner what my requirements are regarding my carry issues then see how bad he wants my business? With a suit or sports coat I carry owb anyway so isnt a problem. With jeans I just try em on at home and take em back if they dont work.. Lately I get most of my cloths from the tent maker!
Whining is for little girls, babies, mommy’s boys and girly men. SNIVELING? Now that’s an art form!
FS22 BT380dlx; P3AT; PPK Beretta 92FS; CX4 Storm BT45UC; FS1911dlx; Colt M1991A1; DW Bobtail Taurus 38UL CZ fnh Modell 27 WWII Luftwaffe issued to Hauptman Jaeduvel + old family guns
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Americangirl01
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Re: Dressed to get Killed
Mason:Lately I get most of my cloths from the tent maker!
That canvas is probably pretty durable too.....![Wink [;)]](/emoticons/emotion-5.gif)
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein
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WoodLark
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Re: Dressed to get Killed
gb_in_tx:I've got some of those Haggar slacks that have the elastic waistbands -- I like them. With them, I don't have to buy them an inch bigger, instead I can buy them to fit and they'll work when carrying as well.
For those of us who wear jeans most of the time, I found that Bass Pro Shops store brand -- RedHead, makes what they call "Tournament Jeans", that are primarily intended for fishing. They also have elastic in the waistbands. I've got several pairs of them, and those have become my favorite jeans. Like the Haggar slacks, I can buy them to fit.
One thing about trying on non-stretch waistband slacks & jeans -- how do you handle getting a proper, dressing room fit that accomodates your carry gun? I suppose that you'd have to do all your own checking for fit in front of a mirror, hoping that there is one in the dressing room itself. Usually, that isn't the case -- SWMBO and/or the tailor usually do the checking for fit, and there often isn't a mirror in the changing room itself.
Especially -- how do you do it when you are having a suit tailored? Unless, that is, you know your tailor well enough to know that he/she won't freak when you are trying on the slacks with your carry gun in the waistband. Personally, I don't know any tailors well enough for that. Come to think of it, I don't know ANY tailors in this area. How DO you walk into a place like the Men's Wearhouse and buy a suit -- tailored, of course -- that will accomodate your carry piece? The only thing I can see doing is just get the suit tailored normally and then either use a shoulder holster (which I don't have) or just pocket carry. At least dress slacks have deep enough pockets to accomodate pocket carry. Maybe the answer is to wear your holster to the mens wear store, empty. The tailor may still freak, but at least you aren't in voilation of the law (your locale may differ).
Actually, I remember reading on another forum (I think it was Defensive Carry) that Men's Warehouse stores are generally quite gun friendly. Don't know if it applies to all of their stores, but there were several posters who said they wore their guns when being fitted and had no problems.
Earth is the insane asylum of the universe! --------------------------------------------------------- Bersa Thunder 9 UC FNH FNP9 Kahr P9 Kel-Tec P3AT Browning Buckmark Smith & Wesson 5903
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Mason
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Re: Dressed to get Killed
Canvis is in now, Right?
Whining is for little girls, babies, mommy’s boys and girly men. SNIVELING? Now that’s an art form!
FS22 BT380dlx; P3AT; PPK Beretta 92FS; CX4 Storm BT45UC; FS1911dlx; Colt M1991A1; DW Bobtail Taurus 38UL CZ fnh Modell 27 WWII Luftwaffe issued to Hauptman Jaeduvel + old family guns
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Pokeman
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Re: Dressed to get Killed
gb_in_tx:I've got some of those Haggar slacks that have the elastic waistbands -- I like them. With them, I don't have to buy them an inch bigger, instead I can buy them to fit and they'll work when carrying as well.
For those of us who wear jeans most of the time, I found that Bass Pro Shops store brand -- RedHead, makes what they call "Tournament Jeans", that are primarily intended for fishing. They also have elastic in the waistbands. I've got several pairs of them, and those have become my favorite jeans. Like the Haggar slacks, I can buy them to fit.
One thing about trying on non-stretch waistband slacks & jeans -- how do you handle getting a proper, dressing room fit that accomodates your carry gun? I suppose that you'd have to do all your own checking for fit in front of a mirror, hoping that there is one in the dressing room itself. Usually, that isn't the case -- SWMBO and/or the tailor usually do the checking for fit, and there often isn't a mirror in the changing room itself.
Especially -- how do you do it when you are having a suit tailored? Unless, that is, you know your tailor well enough to know that he/she won't freak when you are trying on the slacks with your carry gun in the waistband. Personally, I don't know any tailors well enough for that. Come to think of it, I don't know ANY tailors in this area. How DO you walk into a place like the Men's Wearhouse and buy a suit -- tailored, of course -- that will accomodate your carry piece? The only thing I can see doing is just get the suit tailored normally and then either use a shoulder holster (which I don't have) or just pocket carry. At least dress slacks have deep enough pockets to accomodate pocket carry. Maybe the answer is to wear your holster to the mens wear store, empty. The tailor may still freak, but at least you aren't in voilation of the law (your locale may differ).
I get taylored stuff now and then. I have put a holster and gun in my belt while the lady was measuing. just warn them first.
Will hunt for food
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