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Kevin's in Tallahassee just called me and said they had an LCP available.  Would I be interested for $339 +7.5% tax + fdle charge.
I told him 'NOT IN THIS LIFE'. What a crock. Ruger will be pumping them out soon and the price will be way lower.
Anyway I bought a Kel-Tec P3AT for almost a $100 less than that. I just got a call from UPS and my P3AT is arriving back today. Will keep you posted as to if it still works like it did with new barrel and slide.
They may be shipping my P32 back with it too.
It's only been since last Monday when I shipped it to them. That is FAST service.
Toni

Would I be interested for $339 +7.5% tax + fdle charge.

 WOW!!!! for a KEL TEC COPY .   Think I stick with the orginal. Lot less money.

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Would I be interested for $339 +7.5% tax + fdle charge.

 WOW!!!! for a KEL TEC COPY .   Think I stick with the orginal. Lot less money.

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Why on earth would I pay more for a LCP when I could buy a P3AT for a whole lot less?  After all, the Ruger clone is still having "growing pains" where the original Kel-Tec is a mature product.

Why would ANYBODY buy a clone for a higher price than the original?  Beats me...

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I'm one and the same as gb_in_ga, so add a bit over 900 to my post count...

I have got to be honest.At one point and time i was actually considering purchasing one down the road,but if this is any indication of what the prices are going to be like,i will probably just get the P3AT.

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JC40

Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat,for it is momentary.



Mini Firestorm .40
Sig Sauer P220
CZ Rami .40
S&W Airweight 38 spl
Taurus PT111 9mm
Pheonix arms .22

JC,
 I wanted an elsie pea but i will not be kissing someone's a** to get one.
hope this helps,
toni

pocketauto:

JC,
 I wanted an elsie pea but i will not be kissing someone's a** to get one.
hope this helps,
toni

I agree.It`s not worth it and for a gun that has not had a great beginning either.Hopefully they will wake up and realize that at those prices,the guns will make great shelf displays for a long time.
John

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JC40

Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat,for it is momentary.



Mini Firestorm .40
Sig Sauer P220
CZ Rami .40
S&W Airweight 38 spl
Taurus PT111 9mm
Pheonix arms .22

I remember when the PT Cruiser first came on the scene and local dealers had the testicular fortitude to charge near $1000 over MSRP for their inventory...and many the sheeple bought them up. There will always be a market for those who want something bad enough and are more than willing to overpay to be the first kid on the block to have it. Capitalism at its finest.

Can you say "ticket broker?".....lol.... or Cabbage Patch doll ?..... how about an IPhone?......or a WII?...lol....

there is also the notion that one really doesn't want to be the owner of ANY "1st issue" of any consumer product. I am of the group that lets the beta testing be done on somebody else's dime and waits for supply to overcome demand and the early bugs that ALWAYS exist on any new consumer goods to get corrected..

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Peoples Republik of Illinois (land of "Lincoln is spinning in his grave")

Browning Buck Mark 22
Walther P-38
CZ-52
Kel-Tec P3AT
Bersa Thunder 380
Beretta Bobcat 22
Springfield GI 1911A1
HiPoint 995

But Gee!!! Come on you guys, It has a little birdie on the grips.

DET

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DET

there is also the notion that one really doesn't want to be the owner of ANY "1st issue" of any consumer product. I am of the group that lets the beta testing be done on somebody else's dime and waits for supply to overcome demand and the early bugs that ALWAYS exist on any new consumer goods to get corrected..

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That's me.  Early adopters often find themselves filling the role of beta testers.  I oughta know, I'm a programmer and I've seen companies -- no, I've been a developer for companies -- that have that as a semi-official policy.  Get the product out, NOW.  We'll fix the bugs that the users howl about the loudest.

Anyway, that's why I waited almost 2 years to get my Kel-Tec PF-9.  It took them about a year and a half to iron out the bugs.  Unfortunately (for Kel-Tec, that is), the initial ones were problematic enough so that there is a certain amount of badmouthing associated with the guns.  Oh, well, that drives down demand which drives down prices.  As long as MINE works -- and it does -- then let 'em badmouth it.

Anyway, just remember -- the early bird may get the worm, but it is the 2nd mouse that gets the cheese.

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I'm one and the same as gb_in_ga, so add a bit over 900 to my post count...

I was at our local gun show last month, wanted to see the Ruger.  The dealer had two to sell and had sold both of them for $450 each!!  This is the largest dealer in our area.  I have bought many guns from them and I thought this was outrageous and told him so.  He didn't care, said that's waht they're going for, think I might shop elsewhere.

I guess I'm of the opinion that if you the merchant arbitrarily jack up the price on a necessity, you are price gouging. Prices on discretionary purchases? Someone wiser than I once said that it is the buyer who determines the ultimate selling price of things. Prices too high on a non-necessity? Don't buy it just yet. At some point the inventory costs WILL rear their ugly merchandising head and the price WILL come down....usually right before taxes are owed on outstanding stock on the shelves.

'Stuff' is worth exactly what somebody is willing to pay for it, and not one penny more.

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Peoples Republik of Illinois (land of "Lincoln is spinning in his grave")

Browning Buck Mark 22
Walther P-38
CZ-52
Kel-Tec P3AT
Bersa Thunder 380
Beretta Bobcat 22
Springfield GI 1911A1
HiPoint 995

I guess I'm of the opinion that if you the merchant arbitrarily jack up the price on a necessity, you are price gouging.

Being the "good" libertarian (/conservative) that I am, I'm not of that opinion.  I happen to think that there is no such thing as price gouging -- necessity or not.  An item or commodity is worth exactly what the customer is willing to pay for it.  If you aren't pleased with the price a merchant wants for an item, and can't talk that merchant down, then go find some other merchant to sell you the item at a lower cost.  If there are no merchants that are willing to sell at a lower price, then the problem isn't price gouging -- the problem is that you aren't willing to pay market price for the item.  Too bad, so sad.  Either pay up or do without.  If the merchant's prices actually are too high, then he won't sell -- but his competitors will.  He'll get the message soon enough and drop his prices, or go out of business.  Again -- Too bad, so sad.

By the way, when enough people decide to do without (meaning, it really wasn't all that real of a necessity at all) there follows a decrease in demand and that always produces lower prices -- that is, as long as the .gov doesn't poke their idiotic noses into things...

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I'm one and the same as gb_in_ga, so add a bit over 900 to my post count...

gb,
 i respect your opinion.
 however, can you say "generator, lumber, roofing material, water, and food??"
"nowhere else to buy it"

toni

gb,
 i respect your opinion.
 however, can you say "generator, lumber, roofing material, water, and food??"
"nowhere else to buy it"

toni

I grew up in hurricane country, too.  Yes, I can say that.  No, it still doesn't change my stance.

Anti-gouging laws are really nothing more than price fixing laws.  Price fixing laws guarantee shortages.

Generator -- you don't really need a generator.  I went weeks without power post-Alicia.  Generators are luxuries.

Lumber -- for rebuilding, you mean?  Just get in your truck and drive 100 miles one way or the other, up or down the coast.  You'll find a Home Depot or Lowe's somewhere.  Oh, you mean you don't have a truck?  You won't be rebuilding immediately, anyway.  And you should already have your pre-cut plywood for your windows if you had any sense -- normal storm preparations.  Lumber isn't an immediate necessity, in other words.

Roofing material -- see lumber.  Seems like I've seen those blue FEMA roofs before (in-laws are in Pensacola -- Ivan), meaning that it isn't an immediate necessity to get it fixed, right now.  Where you get into problems in Fla is that the .gov is in the way, with their special "Florida" roofing materials mandate that nobody else on the coast has.  That DOES drive up the prices and makes it so that you just can't get shingles.  Don't blame the roofing suppliers for the .gov's mistakes.  You want shingles now, at a reasonable price?  Get your state .gov to ditch that idiot rule and let in shingles from out of state.

Water -- you mean you don't have it stockpiled, or the means to purify it on hand already?  It'll be back on in a week or so.  Personally, I have a microporous filter, but you can always boil it with your Coleman stove.  You DO have a Coleman stove, right?  If you have none at all, just hop in your truck and go 100 miles up or down the coast -- you'll find somebody who has some.

Food -- Can we say "Post Hurricane Cook-out?"  I've found that the problem isn't getting food.  The problem is cooking it up and eating it before it spoils, or preserving it.  You should have enough hard rations stockpiled to make it a week or more after the great cook-out.  By then, the grocery stores should be back open.  If not, just hop in your truck and drive about 100 miles up or down the coast, there'll be a store open somewhere.

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I'm one and the same as gb_in_ga, so add a bit over 900 to my post count...

Hi GB,
 All that you say is just fine and dandy if you have a truck and money for gas and are a healthy person with no special needs. God Bless You,
Toni