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Second And Last Range Report.

Last post 08-10-2008, 7:45 PM by Darth AkSarBen. 6 replies.
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  •  07-17-2008, 11:16 AM 84109

    Second And Last Range Report.

    This is my second and last range report on my New Bersa Thunder UC 45. I say last because it functioned flawlessly just like the first time. Put another 100 rounds of 230 FMJ and 20 rounds of Federal 230 JHP with out so much of a hint of a problem, what a gun.
    Bersa 380
    Kel-Tec P3AT
    Bersa UC 45 ACP
    Glock 26
    Glock 17
    IDPA Member
    South Carolina CCWP Holder
  •  07-19-2008, 9:57 AM 84404 in reply to 84109

    Re: Second And Last Range Report.

    Big Smile [:D]Yes [Y]
    Bersa Thunder,
    PPK/S,
    1990 Colt Mustang,
    380 Kel Tec
    380's Rule

    "Just say "Lay A Way"

    "WWJBD" What Would James Bond Do?

    "Hokey religions and plastic glocks are no match for a good 1911 at your side, kid."





  •  07-31-2008, 7:27 PM 86679 in reply to 84404

    Re: Second And Last Range Report.

    How is the gun's kick?
    U. S. Navy Retired
    Colt Single short 22LR Target Pistol (1925)
    Colt l903 .32 Caliber
    Keltec P32
    Bersa 380
    XD 9 MM SC
  •  08-01-2008, 12:10 AM 86692 in reply to 86679

    Re: Second And Last Range Report.

    I'm not the original poster, but I'll chime in here.  Felt recoil is totally subjective, everyone has their own standards on what is okay and what is too much.  I used to train 120-pound female cops who thought the hot 147-grain JHP 9mm in a Beretta 92 was a pussycat, while 250-pound Baby Hueys whined about it.  I cut my teeth on revolvers, and with a well-shaped set of stocks that fit your hand, recoil is a lot less noticeable.  Shoot an autopistol that your hand doesn't get along with very well, and it seems a lot more pronounced.  Guns with very little weight forward of the triggerguard tend to accentuate the recoil impulse, the day I figured that out was the day I realized why I loved heavy-barrelled handguns!

    The Bersa 380 is a perfect example of a small-caliber gun with a noticeable kick, all the weight is at the rear, and the muzzle rise is pretty abrupt for such a wimpy little round.  It's not overpowering by any means, but it's noticeable, especially to those more used to revolvers, with more weight out front.  The heavy-barrel Smith & Wesson revolvers like the newer Model Tens and 64/65 series are very popular, with good reason.  The gun goes bang, but it doesn't buck and roar like a magnum.  VERY easy to shoot, even fast DA fire is a snap once you get used to the trigger and the feel of the gun.  I LOVED teaching new recruits the wheelgun, in a few dozen rounds most of them were drilling the X-ring, or bouncing reactive targets all over the backstop.  Almost made me look like I knew what I was talking about. 

    As for the UC45, it recoils about like you'd expect.  Not vicious, but noticeable, and trying to shoot hot, heavy-bullet loads fast is difficult.  My best advice is to use a two-handed grip, let the gun rise, then guide it back on target as rapidly as you can without jerking it downward.  The idea is to LET the gun return to the same place every time, naturally.  If you fight it back down to perfect sight alignment you'll wear yourself out in no time, and your shots will be scattered low and left (usually) from jerking the trigger when the sights are close. 

    I just loaded up 500 rounds of 45 ammo for my UC, using a 230-grain round-nose cast bullet over 4.1 grains of WST.  It's not hot, but it's about the warmest heavy-bullet load I can shoot fast with any accuracy.  Does it kick?  Sure it does, it's a 45ACP in an alloy-framed gun!  But nothing a 120-pound female officer would complain about............

    Papajohn


    If you can shoot Home Invaders, what's wrong with shooting Homeland Invaders?
  •  08-01-2008, 1:56 AM 86693 in reply to 86692

    Re: Second And Last Range Report.

    Thank you papajohn, could not have said it better. I like the feel of the 45 better than the 40S&W. To me the 45 has a push upward where as the 40 is more of a wrist snapping twist. I get back on target more natural and faster with the 45. Let me add, God forbid you are ever in a gun fight you will not remember how many times you pulled the trigger let along how the recoil felt. I shoot nothing but 230 grain FMJ for target and Federal 230 JHP Hydra-Shok for carry. My Bersa loves this combination. I’ve shot around 350 rounds of FMJ and 30 JHP with the above combination and never had so much of a hint of any malfunctions. In fact I have a number of Glocks and I can say my Bersa shoots as good if not better than the Glock 21 and the Bersa was half the money.
    Bersa 380
    Kel-Tec P3AT
    Bersa UC 45 ACP
    Glock 26
    Glock 17
    IDPA Member
    South Carolina CCWP Holder
  •  08-02-2008, 10:36 AM 86894 in reply to 86693

    Re: Second And Last Range Report.

    I bought one 40 and fired  1 mag and traded Recoil is to snappy . Will stay with 45 and softer push. I beleve a good HP on 9mm is better than a 40 .
    Bersa Thunder,
    PPK/S,
    1990 Colt Mustang,
    380 Kel Tec
    380's Rule

    "Just say "Lay A Way"

    "WWJBD" What Would James Bond Do?

    "Hokey religions and plastic glocks are no match for a good 1911 at your side, kid."





  •  08-10-2008, 7:45 PM 88499 in reply to 86679

    Re: Second And Last Range Report.

    jvanwink:
    How is the gun's kick?

    This .45 is not a big "kicker".  I've felt worse on some 9mm and my Glock I carried on duty had more kick to it than this.  But it was .40 S&W and with a lighter weight polymer pistol.  Don't worry about the recoil.  If you use it to save your life you won't even remember what it felt like.

     


    Vern
    http://vernsdidj.com Didgeridoo info and pictures
    NRA member

    "There are 10 kinds of people in the world. those that understand binary and those that do not."
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