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Reassembling 380 Thunder

Last post 08-02-2008, 12:28 AM by Darth AkSarBen. 22 replies.
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  •  07-13-2008, 2:51 PM 83544

    Reassembling 380 Thunder

        Well, my Bersa came back from Colorado Gun Works after the disassembly lever broke off and seems to be working fine.  However, I am having one major problem with it--I can't get it back together after disassembling!  My daughter-in-law tried, too.  Is there some trick only you guys know about?
        Also, after reading posts, I sent for Speer ammo and had jam after jam.  Wolf worked better for me than Speer, but the gunsmith says not to use Wolf, so guess I will have to try another brand.  Has anyone had a problem with Speer?  Any other reasonably priced recommendations?
  •  07-13-2008, 4:47 PM 83559 in reply to 83544

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    First ensure the magazine is out of the well and the dissassembly lever is pushed down and forward with the index finger.

    I'm sure someone will be by here soon with better answers than I have, but there's only 2 things I know very important when reassembling the Bersa Thunder 380.  The Recoil spring has two different sized ends.  The tighter end goes toward the chamber and the more open end goes toward the muzzle. If you hold the frame with the spring in place and let it point toward the floor, the spring shouldn't fall off. If it does, turn it around and go from there.

    Second. the "bitter end" or the end of the spring should be up in the 12 o'clock position with the open part of the end of the spring up.  Then just slide the spring into the slide, compressing the spring as you bring it farther back toward the chamber all the while holding the dissassembly lever activated with the other index finger. At the extreme travel of the slide to the rear, simply set the slide down on the frame and allow it to advance forward then return the dissassembly lever to the locked position and done.

    I have had no feeding or ejection issues with either of my 380's either the Duo Tone or the CC since a break-in period.  Mine seemed to be very short only about 200-250 rounds.  Some people here recommend 4 to 5 hundred.

    Enjoy

    Bill


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  •  07-13-2008, 5:43 PM 83578 in reply to 83559

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

        I was not holding down the disassembly lever while setting the slide down.  However, as a woman with fairly small hands, I am having a real problem doing these things together.  My son had to put my gun back together.  I hope practice makes it easier.  The next time I clean my gun, I will try to do things in the order you suggest.
        Think I will order MagTech next time.  If it's good enough for Colorado Gun Works, it's good enough for me.  However, I am also having a problem in getting ammo, especially the 6th and 7th bullets, into the magazine.  Between the reassembly and magazine issues, I am not still not entirely sure the Bersa 380 is the best gun for me.  I like it; I don't even mind the recoil, but maybe it requires stronger/bigger hands than I have.
       
  •  07-13-2008, 6:40 PM 83585 in reply to 83578

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    Loading mag if you a small person is hard . Load till comfort then shoot. Their is a tool for a few $ that some people use. Couple members here use it  I can't tell you name.

    The Bersa is easy to  break down compaired to a PPK/S  It has a stronger spring and the entire trigger guard must be pulled down and held to side while doing the slide thing.  All semi auto pistols have springs to control the slide and chamber the next round . So practice with your Bersa and remember we have other ladies here that also own and shoot Bersa's


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  •  07-13-2008, 7:46 PM 83595 in reply to 83585

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    Check out this thread for easy reassembly.

    http://bersatalk.com/forums/thread/51215.aspx


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  •  07-14-2008, 7:06 AM 83640 in reply to 83595

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    Thanks.  I checked out the website and printed out the pictures.  The next time I disassemble, I'll give it a try. 
  •  07-14-2008, 7:21 AM 83644 in reply to 83640

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    Hi Notannie.....If you follow the instructions on the spring placement (and remove the magazine of ourse), then, sit in a chair with the pistol facing forward.

    Place it between your knees and use your right hand to hold it (palm on the underside of the grip and fingers underneath the trigger guard), keeping the grip against the bottom of the chair...use your right thumb to hold down the lever.....

    Use your left hand to grab the slide and then scoop the end of the recoil spring, then pull the slide all the way back into place.....The secret is to use the right arm and chair for leverage.......Good luck....Wink [;)]

     


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  •  07-14-2008, 9:14 AM 83662 in reply to 83644

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    I am assuming from your tag that you ARE female, so thanks for your directions which may prove to be most helpful since you can understand the strength and hand-size issue more than a man can.  Maybe we need a female gunowners section on this forum! 
       
  •  07-15-2008, 6:54 AM 83763 in reply to 83662

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    Indeed I am.....there are a handful of us here (females)......but I doubt michael t would give us our own section.....Some of us get a little carried away at times....Embarrassed [:$]... and he won't even give the boys a 1911 pistol section and they've been good!Wink [;)].
    "We cannot solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein
  •  07-15-2008, 11:41 AM 83806 in reply to 83763

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    Thanks, AmericanGirl!!  I was afraid to try taking my gun apart yesterday when I got your directions, fearing that I wouldn't be able to get it back together, but I got up my courage today and took it apart AND got it back together on the first try using your chair technique.  Now, no GUY would have ever told me to do that! 
  •  07-15-2008, 12:56 PM 83816 in reply to 83806

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    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    Notannie:
    Thanks, AmericanGirl!!  Now, no GUY would have ever told me to do that! 

    Yur right, but if you were in my area and if yur kind enough to get me a cold one I'd be glad to show ya.


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  •  07-15-2008, 12:57 PM 83817 in reply to 83806

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    GOOD JOB Notannie!! 

    We knew you could it. My girlfriend had more trouble assembling her BT380 in the beginning now she is a pro but it took some practice, she likes her Bersa even more  that she can fieldstrip it herself without a "male" around, she even dissassembles my 1911's  for cleaning. GOD I LOVE THAT WOMAN!!


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  •  07-15-2008, 1:21 PM 83820 in reply to 83806

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    You are welcome Notannie...Yes [Y]..Yes [Y]....sometimes brains do prevail brawn......
    "We cannot solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein
  •  07-31-2008, 12:15 PM 86630 in reply to 83578

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    I use Remington 88gr JHP and they work fine in my T380 DLX.  Reasonably priced, too!  Big Smile [:D]

    HKS has a speedloader which will solve your magazine loading problem.  $12.95 at most gun stores.

    Enjoy!

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  •  07-31-2008, 12:31 PM 86631 in reply to 86630

    Re: Reassembling 380 Thunder

    My Bersa HATES the SpeerGold HP, so I have switched to Remington or Winchester FMJ for target practice, and the number of jams has greatly decreased (although were not entirely eliminated).  I haven't tried to find another hollow point yet  but will give the Remington a try when I do.

    I bought a S&W Airweight 38 Special, and after the trigger pressure required and the kick from shooting it, my Bersa is a pleasure to shoot.  I even hit the target at 45 ft. today on my first try at that distance. The magazine doesn't even seem that hard to load anymore.  Guess it all is relative. . .   However, the speedloader would probably be a good idea anyway.
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